Posts by Black Sheep

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What would you say?

by Freedom rocks in

if you had 2 minutes with an old witness friend or with a family member to convince them the 'truth' is a lie and the gb isnt being directed by god what would you say to get their attention that might make them question their beliefs?.

Black Sheep

Every time I ask one a question they tell me they'll look it up and get back to me. Not one has ever come back with an answer. AFAIK none of them have left. They have too much to lose if they have to tell their friends and families that they've all been sucked in by a bunch of doomsday nutters.

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Has the Governing Body EVER apologized for anything?

by Wild_Thing in

jw
friends

geoffrey jackson testified to the arc that the governing body has apologized for things in the past, so an apology to sexual abuse victims is "perceivable".

what has the governing body ever apologized for?.

22 q. just on that point, mr jackson, has the governing body23 considered apologising to survivors of child sexual abuse24 at the hands of elders within the organisation?25 a. i haven't been in any discussions with regard to that.26 27 q. is that something that you foresee might happen ‐ in 28 other words, that an apology at least be considered?29 a. the governing body has apologised on other matters, so30 for me to say ‐ i can't speak collectively for everybody, 31 but we have apologised on things in the past, in other32 areas, so it is perceivable.. .

Black Sheep

There was a very evasive apology published after Jehovah's 1975 no show. A search should find it.

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9 days to go

by Jrjw in

9 days to go until i hand my d'a letter in.

its extremely short, as in one sentence long.

i'm not giving them a reason coz i don't need to coz it's my life and my choice and i don't have to answer to the boe or gb.

Black Sheep

Why would you want to boost their collective delusion that they are important by giving them some kind of recognition that they are?

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besty - anybody remember me

by besty in

jw
friends

just checkin in - all good.

px.

Black Sheep

Yeah, I remember you well. I'd welcome you back except I don't spend enough time here to qualify myself as some sort of regular member. :D

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Conversation

by jdash in

so this morning i had a conversation with my grandmother about going out in service.

remind you i'm only 17. i tried to ask her why i had to go out in service if this isn't what i believe in and whatnot.

she went on saying basically these are the rules for this house.

Black Sheep

You did well by not telling her what you know. It is way better to keep your opinions to yourself and just ask a very occasional question, in such a way that she feels obligated to answer it, then very calmly and without being confrontational, make her explain any dishonesty she uses to weasel her way out of properly answering that question. Keep focussed on making her answer the question that you asked so that she can't morph it into some other question that she is more comfortable with.

Take it easy, softly, softly catchee monkey.

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March 2018 Study Watchtower

by Listener in

the first study article is about getting bible studies and children baptized.

there is much more emphasis placed on parents to get their own children baptized rather than focusing on bible students.

they try to impress on others the need for urgency.

Black Sheep

I don't know why anyone is surprised by this. I haven't read the article, but from the comments, there hasn't been much change, if any. The psychological warfare on parents and children doesn't seem any different from when I was a child of JW's in the sixties.

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A Little Direction Please

by Brian J in

i'm an active elder, cobe, just got home from the meeting where i handled the treasures part and concluded by announcing a friend of mine has been d/f,.....blah blah blah...and over the last year have woken up.

i simply cannot spill my guts to my wife and children as it would be family suicide.

i have zero desire to bash, spread my feelings, or become an "apostate".

Black Sheep

Your best chance to extract your family is while they see you as strong in the faith and you haven't donned an Apostate hat, so ask questions, but don't provide answers and personal opinions, letting them do the research to find the answers.

Take your time and be prepared to be the last one out.

Softly, softly, catchee monkey.

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Can you sue a False Prophet

by maccauk in

its a serious question but we all know that thousands even millions have been misled, brainwashed or deluded into thinking the end of the world is coming by false teachers and prophets.

many people gave up family, careers, time, enjoyment of life etc etc only to be disappointed time and time again.they are responsible for pain, suffering, and manipulation.

this goes to many denominations.

Black Sheep

Did anybody sue Harold Camping? I doubt it was possible.

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1950- present PDF Scans of original mailed or literature counter, WTs ?

by itsibitsybrainbutbigenoughtosmellarat in

i think these exist ?

has someone created pdf scans of original mailed or literature counter wts?

or have copies of those pdf's?.